Posts by dark angle

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Are you a HOPE-er or a DO-er?

by Terry in

i want things to be the way i want them.

i want the wind at my back if i'm going for a stroll.

i don't want the sun in my eyes.

dark angle

three basic choices.
1. I can complain about it
2. I can take steps to bring about the conditions I desire by intelligent planning, careful choices and selective strategy
3.I can HOPE.

could we have those three choices at once, or in sequence? i think we could, in tackling some of our problems that we can change. First off we must feel the problem or realize it (and complain), then we could do something, and hope that our efforts could remedy it. hope could make us move consistently, not to despair, in our efforts in finding a solution to a certain problem.

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Hey - is this a new web page at JW.org ????

by 1914BS in

how do you log in to this??.

http://www.jw.org/index.html?option=nryc&txthelp=downloads#login1.

holy cow!!!.

dark angle

This is interesting!! after several years of being antagonistic about the internet they finally succumb to it!!!!!

thanks for the info!

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You know, I've yet to meet a JW who can explain this

by Lady Zombie in

i know that has probably been covered ad infinitum on jwd.

so...... if jehovah is omnipotent, then there is nothing he can't do and nothing he doesn't know.. and, according to jws (as well as most other religions), god is love.

therefore he had to have known, even before creating all of creation, what would happen.

dark angle

"The point is that if there is no God, then what is the point of our existence? To enjoy our time here on earth for the brief while we are here? Seems rather pointless doesn't it? "

this assumes that theres a relationship between god and our existence. but what if there is not? and whats wrong with enjoying our time on earth? wether you believe on a god or not, it is still sensible.

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Leaving the Organization but not the teachings

by donny in

when i left the witnesses in 1992 after ten years in the orgainzation, i got as far away from the teachings and mindest as i could.

however some, like my former brother-in-law, also left, but are intent on finding ways to reform the society from within since he believes in the society as being of god, but that it has become misguided and is slowly drifting to "christendom" status.

one of the things he cites as evidence is the wtbts become aligned with the united nations.

dark angle

"I have noticed that those who were also raised as JWs, but who left an a much earlier age, have rejected basically all of the JW teachings (including the concept of God alltogether). Many of them have taken on a more secularist attitude toward life, or are agnostic. "

helo Jeremy,

im from the philippines and i was born as witness. my father was a former DO and my mother is still a very devout JW. I started questioning JW beliefs since i was around 15. right now i have very serious doubts about our fundamental beliefs and notions and i felt that JWs beliefs are quite far from the percieved reality of the collective knowledge of the world. and im really considering agnostic ideas. Its interesting to read your observations.

However right now i still attend meetings regularly due to my wifes beliefs and family ties but it always pains me about seing this people accepting notions without testing and verifying certain claims and numbing thier reason and common sense.

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Noahs Ark snapped into three pieces

by hamsterbait in

who provided the info on this?.

wood ships were never as big as iron or steel because they break up above a couple of hundred feet.. hb.

dark angle

yep, and every animal requires a specific habitat for it to live!! temperture, humidity, light, unique food (some are predators).

but the biggest hurdle of them all, bigger problem in building the ark, is that noah needs to traverse all around the world to save such unique species locateded only on their habitat, and the massive frieght required to haul them all to the mediterranian.

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Is Higher education strongly discouraged in 2007 district convention?

by dark angle in

today in our rehersal, i met with our district convension overseer.

he told us that college or higher education is now strongly discouraged by the society.

i argued that such policy is not practical here in the philippines since most jobs now require some sort of college education unlike in other countries where there are demands on skills regardless on educational attainment.

dark angle

i remember sometime on 2000, when our philippine bethel branch was recruiting more personel, one of their preferred requirements was having a college degree. this was reason why several elders and brothers were hesitant to apply because most of them havent finished college.

This is so much in contradiction with the anti college spirit in this years convention. There seems to be a double standard here.

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Is Higher education strongly discouraged in 2007 district convention?

by dark angle in

today in our rehersal, i met with our district convension overseer.

he told us that college or higher education is now strongly discouraged by the society.

i argued that such policy is not practical here in the philippines since most jobs now require some sort of college education unlike in other countries where there are demands on skills regardless on educational attainment.

dark angle

@ wing commander,

Yep your right, most sheilded young witness, when they cut loose from their guards, behave abnormally!! the experience is not there yet, the wisdom that follows from personnal observation and experiences of life.

These so called faithful and descreet slave may learn more about the buddhist philosophy about life.

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Is Higher education strongly discouraged in 2007 district convention?

by dark angle in

today in our rehersal, i met with our district convension overseer.

he told us that college or higher education is now strongly discouraged by the society.

i argued that such policy is not practical here in the philippines since most jobs now require some sort of college education unlike in other countries where there are demands on skills regardless on educational attainment.

dark angle

Thanks Fading Away,

I'm going to listen & critique it. thanks also for the other links! will also pay a visit to those.

Lately the society is behaving more strangely.

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WT Comments (Dec 17-23 DEEP THINGS) FEATURING JK666

by V in

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dark angle

@Obves,

Seems you have been a victim of the WTSs' propaganda! The idea that JWs are less evil than others and thus better are the societies claims and very easily disproven. almost all religion feel the same way on varying degrees.

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Is Higher education strongly discouraged in 2007 district convention?

by dark angle in

today in our rehersal, i met with our district convension overseer.

he told us that college or higher education is now strongly discouraged by the society.

i argued that such policy is not practical here in the philippines since most jobs now require some sort of college education unlike in other countries where there are demands on skills regardless on educational attainment.

dark angle

today in our rehersal, i met with our district convension overseer. He told us that college or higher education is now strongly discouraged by the society. I argued that such policy is not practical here in the philippines since most jobs now require some sort of college education unlike in other countries where there are demands on skills regardless on educational attainment. however he insist that since the policy was made by the "faithful and discreet slave" it must be right regardless. i didn't pursue more on the argument since i felt its not my busines to convince him otherwise. Our convention will be next week.

Is it that true?

Has anyone here have a copy of such talk? if you have, could you post it here? what do you feel about such policy or strong suggestion?